Comments on: Monday Stream of Consciousness http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/ It's always football season somewhere. Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:49:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: a different dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-60423 a different dave Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:09:40 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-60423 Not to mention, to avoid playing in the summer when all the international tourneys are held (ie, World Cup, Olympics, European Cup, various youth tournaments, etc). It's not like the winters are all that harsh in Ireland! Not to mention, to avoid playing in the summer when all the international tourneys are held (ie, World Cup, Olympics, European Cup, various youth tournaments, etc). It’s not like the winters are all that harsh in Ireland!

]]> By: joe http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-60315 joe Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:12:30 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-60315 Wouldn't it make more sense to play the Irish league in the winter where it wouldn't face competition from the GAA? Wouldn’t it make more sense to play the Irish league in the winter where it wouldn’t face competition from the GAA?

]]> By: Simon http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-60256 Simon Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:23:19 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-60256 The Irish league is played during the summer too The Irish league is played during the summer too

]]> By: a different dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59963 a different dave Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:40:43 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59963 Scandinavia and Russia are the exception in Europe, though, in not playing in winter. Ice hockey is the big winter sport in those countries, and there are no summer sports like baseball or cricket to compete against. In the 1920's and 30's the ASL promoted itself as "America's winter sport". They played in the American northeast right through the winter months. Scandinavia and Russia are the exception in Europe, though, in not playing in winter. Ice hockey is the big winter sport in those countries, and there are no summer sports like baseball or cricket to compete against.

In the 1920′s and 30′s the ASL promoted itself as “America’s winter sport”. They played in the American northeast right through the winter months.

]]> By: joejoejoe http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59939 joejoejoe Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:29:48 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59939 I'm seen clips of snowy games in Northern Europe. Here's a clip from a match (Porto v. Penarol, 1987) in Tokyo played in snow like they had in Green Bay the other day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGRM-18ZG8 I’m seen clips of snowy games in Northern Europe. Here’s a clip from a match (Porto v. Penarol, 1987) in Tokyo played in snow like they had in Green Bay the other day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGRM-18ZG8

]]> By: joe http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59929 joe Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:39:02 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59929 As regards to soccer playing (or not playing) in the snow, that is why leagues in Russia and Scandinavia play in the summer. Also, I am a lot more of a rugby league fan, but personally I get into rugby union internationals. As regards to soccer playing (or not playing) in the snow, that is why leagues in Russia and Scandinavia play in the summer.

Also, I am a lot more of a rugby league fan, but personally I get into rugby union internationals.

]]> By: a different dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59889 a different dave Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:36:57 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59889 Google image search sucks for this sort of thing, but here's some samples: http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200502/s1304699.htm http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200502/r40865_103844.jpg http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=2694660&epmid=2&partner=Google http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=2694660&epmid=2&partner=Google http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=2694660&epmid=2&partner=Google http://images.usatoday.com/weather/_photos/2006/03/02/apaptopixsoccergermanyusapoland.jpg http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2006-03-01-roundup_x.htm?loc=interstitialskip " KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — The U.S. team wasn't counting on a blizzard in its World Cup tuneup game Wednesday night. In a scene more befitting Lambeau Field than a soccer field, Clint Dempsey scored the only goal off a misplay by Poland's goalie, and the Americans survived the elements in a 1-0 victory. The next time the United States plays at Fritz-Walter-Stadion, it will probably be 50 degrees warmer, with no sign of snow and a frosty wind. By the midpoint of the second half, the swirling snow made heading the ball an adventure and trying to make cuts a dangerous proposition. In the final minutes, referee Thorsten Kinhofer even went to a yellow ball so it would contrast against the white blanket on the field. " Google image search sucks for this sort of thing, but here’s some samples:

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” KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — The U.S. team wasn’t counting on a blizzard in its World Cup tuneup game Wednesday night.

In a scene more befitting Lambeau Field than a soccer field, Clint Dempsey scored the only goal off a misplay by Poland’s goalie, and the Americans survived the elements in a 1-0 victory. The next time the United States plays at Fritz-Walter-Stadion, it will probably be 50 degrees warmer, with no sign of snow and a frosty wind.

By the midpoint of the second half, the swirling snow made heading the ball an adventure and trying to make cuts a dangerous proposition. In the final minutes, referee Thorsten Kinhofer even went to a yellow ball so it would contrast against the white blanket on the field. “

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59861 Dave Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:49:19 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59861 Dave: I think it's just because I haven't actually seen it yet, and I have a hard time imagining it in conditions similar to that Packers-Seahawks game last Saturday. BTW, the forecast in Green Bay calls for snow all week, with a high on Sunday of 12°F. Ice Bowl II is coming, folks. Getcha longjohns ready. =^) Dave: I think it’s just because I haven’t actually seen it yet, and I have a hard time imagining it in conditions similar to that Packers-Seahawks game last Saturday.

BTW, the forecast in Green Bay calls for snow all week, with a high on Sunday of 12°F. Ice Bowl II is coming, folks. Getcha longjohns ready. =^)

]]> By: a different dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59860 a different dave Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:42:50 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59860 Dave, I don't know where you get this idea that soccer isn't played in the snow. Maybe you've only been watching EPL; they have pretty mild winters in Britain. Still, there is a reason why sports equipment manufacturers developed the high visibility orange soccer balls, for use in snowy conditions. Generally snow only causes a soccer match to get canceled if visibility conditions make it impossible to see what is going on; both sides will usually agree in that case to postpone the game. But there's no rule saying that they have to cancel. Dave,

I don’t know where you get this idea that soccer isn’t played in the snow. Maybe you’ve only been watching EPL; they have pretty mild winters in Britain.

Still, there is a reason why sports equipment manufacturers developed the high visibility orange soccer balls, for use in snowy conditions.

Generally snow only causes a soccer match to get canceled if visibility conditions make it impossible to see what is going on; both sides will usually agree in that case to postpone the game. But there’s no rule saying that they have to cancel.

]]> By: mark http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59855 mark Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:11:17 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59855 Having played soccer in high school in a snow storm a couple of times in Ohio, I can answer your question of "why not". First, it's cold. Wearing shorts with little or no pads in 30 degree (or less) weather is cold, and after a while, no amount of running around is going to change that. Or make it sting any less getting hit with a water-logged soccer ball on your bare thigh. Which brings me to second, the ball gets wet and stays wet in the snow. It does this in the driving rain too, but a light rain doesn't change the dynamics of the ball the way snow and ice do. It also has to do with some of the same reasons baseball can't be played in the rain. In addition to the dynamics of the ball changing, the lack of visibility gets to be not just a detriment, but a potential hazzard. Running around in a snowstorm, slipping and sliding, with no pads, a ball heavier than usual because it is soaked, and limited visibility is a recipe for a concussion or two to happen. I've seen it more than one, and it's not pretty. Having played soccer in high school in a snow storm a couple of times in Ohio, I can answer your question of “why not”.

First, it’s cold. Wearing shorts with little or no pads in 30 degree (or less) weather is cold, and after a while, no amount of running around is going to change that. Or make it sting any less getting hit with a water-logged soccer ball on your bare thigh.

Which brings me to second, the ball gets wet and stays wet in the snow. It does this in the driving rain too, but a light rain doesn’t change the dynamics of the ball the way snow and ice do. It also has to do with some of the same reasons baseball can’t be played in the rain. In addition to the dynamics of the ball changing, the lack of visibility gets to be not just a detriment, but a potential hazzard. Running around in a snowstorm, slipping and sliding, with no pads, a ball heavier than usual because it is soaked, and limited visibility is a recipe for a concussion or two to happen. I’ve seen it more than one, and it’s not pretty.

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59831 Dave Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:11:25 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59831 Simon: You just got me a little more interested in Super 14. And Setanta Sports claims it will be <a href="http://www.setantanorthamerica.com/WhatsOn/setanta_sports.aspx#super14" rel="nofollow">showing 45 Super 14 matches live</a> this year. Hrmmm... Simon: You just got me a little more interested in Super 14. And Setanta Sports claims it will be showing 45 Super 14 matches live this year. Hrmmm…

]]> By: Simon http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59828 Simon Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:02:22 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59828 Also the Super 14's will be using the ELV so ,might be worth a look , A lot less kicking to touch ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Super_14_season#Introduction_of_Stellenbosch_Laws Also the Super 14′s will be using the ELV so ,might be worth a look , A lot less kicking to touch !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Super_14_season#Introduction_of_Stellenbosch_Laws

]]> By: Simon http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-59827 Simon Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:55:04 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2008/01/14/monday-stream-of-consciousness/#comment-59827 I wonder if we could Lure Nathan to Dublin to play some Gaelic football. At 6'4 he could make a decent full forward . I wonder if we could Lure Nathan to Dublin to play some Gaelic football. At 6’4 he could make a decent full forward .

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