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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tyrone</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-106803</link>
		<dc:creator>tyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you just wait and see IR will return and ireland will get flogged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just wait and see IR will return and ireland will get flogged.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-106802</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that IR is a bit rough and that the Aussies and the Irish are both in it. But they should atleast use a sherrin,burley or an oval f#c*ing ball in it.



And just because the Irish are getting flogged at there own game they should just shut up build a bridge and toughen the F#*k up.


im 10 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that IR is a bit rough and that the Aussies and the Irish are both in it. But they should atleast use a sherrin,burley or an oval f#c*ing ball in it.</p>
<p>And just because the Irish are getting flogged at there own game they should just shut up build a bridge and toughen the F#*k up.</p>
<p>im 10 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Enda</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-50694</link>
		<dc:creator>Enda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been at several IR series games. For me its nevr been that great, it falls between two games awkwardly. While its great that it allows both codes a chance to represent thier country, it feels like it was thought up by some executive thnking about the money that could be made. (*by the way in responce to an earlier comment, the GAA doesnt really need the IR for revenue purposes, its already ridiculously rich*)

It needs solid rules which are really lacking and need to be understood and interpreted the same. It was very clear from the 06 games that the officials were on different pages.

The worst thing about the IR series is that its really soured relations between Ireland and Australia to a certain degree. Sadly certain members of the Irish media had made themselves spokespeople for Ireland in Australia. The media went overboard, like some frightened mothers at a playground fight (your Johnny hit my poor Michael).

As Buster said, it got embaressing. Thankfully the players were smart enough to stand up and say they wanted to keep playing. But GAA decision-makers werent impressed, ironic perhaps considering the violence that breaks out at GAA games every other week, "but lets not talk about that". The associations need to stop pointing fingers and start coming up with ways to stop players from trying to take heads of each other.

Also the difference between both codes ultimately effects how both teams play the IR game. The chlothes line incident in 2005 for instance. A hit like that wouldnt even cross a GAA players mind, thier natural instinct is to shoulder charge. Even the wrap up tackle is alien and something that is difficult to learn given the time restrictions.

What makes it even more difficult is the fact that the GAA players have to fit learning these skills around their commitments to their county, their local club and their day job. AFL players who showed very little difficulty with the round ball in the 07 game would have more available time to master these skills. While there was theething problems in the earlier series i think tis may have been partially due to how serious the Australians took the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been at several IR series games. For me its nevr been that great, it falls between two games awkwardly. While its great that it allows both codes a chance to represent thier country, it feels like it was thought up by some executive thnking about the money that could be made. (*by the way in responce to an earlier comment, the GAA doesnt really need the IR for revenue purposes, its already ridiculously rich*)</p>
<p>It needs solid rules which are really lacking and need to be understood and interpreted the same. It was very clear from the 06 games that the officials were on different pages.</p>
<p>The worst thing about the IR series is that its really soured relations between Ireland and Australia to a certain degree. Sadly certain members of the Irish media had made themselves spokespeople for Ireland in Australia. The media went overboard, like some frightened mothers at a playground fight (your Johnny hit my poor Michael).</p>
<p>As Buster said, it got embaressing. Thankfully the players were smart enough to stand up and say they wanted to keep playing. But GAA decision-makers werent impressed, ironic perhaps considering the violence that breaks out at GAA games every other week, &#8220;but lets not talk about that&#8221;. The associations need to stop pointing fingers and start coming up with ways to stop players from trying to take heads of each other.</p>
<p>Also the difference between both codes ultimately effects how both teams play the IR game. The chlothes line incident in 2005 for instance. A hit like that wouldnt even cross a GAA players mind, thier natural instinct is to shoulder charge. Even the wrap up tackle is alien and something that is difficult to learn given the time restrictions.</p>
<p>What makes it even more difficult is the fact that the GAA players have to fit learning these skills around their commitments to their county, their local club and their day job. AFL players who showed very little difficulty with the round ball in the 07 game would have more available time to master these skills. While there was theething problems in the earlier series i think tis may have been partially due to how serious the Australians took the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-28627</link>
		<dc:creator>Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in Ireland for 2 years now. Every weekend around the country you see far worse violence on the GAA pitches then you have seen in an International Rules game. 
The first game in Galway last year was a farce. No one wanted to tackle and all the commentators both Irish and Aussie said it was a passionless, insipid affair.
I was at Croke Park for game 2 and the level of violence was exageratted beyond belief to cover for the Irish poor performance. I went with a heap of Irish friends and they all thought both sides were to blame.
Remember when Ireland win you dont hear any of this whinging but they are real sooks when they lose. The carry on in the media following the game and Brennans outburst made me ashamed of my Irish heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in Ireland for 2 years now. Every weekend around the country you see far worse violence on the GAA pitches then you have seen in an International Rules game.<br />
The first game in Galway last year was a farce. No one wanted to tackle and all the commentators both Irish and Aussie said it was a passionless, insipid affair.<br />
I was at Croke Park for game 2 and the level of violence was exageratted beyond belief to cover for the Irish poor performance. I went with a heap of Irish friends and they all thought both sides were to blame.<br />
Remember when Ireland win you dont hear any of this whinging but they are real sooks when they lose. The carry on in the media following the game and Brennans outburst made me ashamed of my Irish heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Dale.....</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Dale.....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carro Wilson's article today in The Age indicates the SOO is dead and will not feature in 08.  This is one more sign that the AFL is likely to be keen to have IR on board their fixture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carro Wilson&#8217;s article today in The Age indicates the SOO is dead and will not feature in 08.  This is one more sign that the AFL is likely to be keen to have IR on board their fixture.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pick up off the ground was still in IR and the bounce was also allowed .

Take out the Mark and the Tackle  out of Aussie Rules and what are  you left? Not much . If you used an oval ball IR wouldn't be far from Aussie rules on a rectangular pitch !

Win an All-Ireland your having a laugh sure we are the ones going over their out playing the Aussie's at their own game , A game the Irish lads have never played before Clark , Halpin,  Kennelly all over their showing you how too play your  game .

And the end of the day IR is still very close in terms of overall  balance Aussie ahead by one one think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pick up off the ground was still in IR and the bounce was also allowed .</p>
<p>Take out the Mark and the Tackle  out of Aussie Rules and what are  you left? Not much . If you used an oval ball IR wouldn&#8217;t be far from Aussie rules on a rectangular pitch !</p>
<p>Win an All-Ireland your having a laugh sure we are the ones going over their out playing the Aussie&#8217;s at their own game , A game the Irish lads have never played before Clark , Halpin,  Kennelly all over their showing you how too play your  game .</p>
<p>And the end of the day IR is still very close in terms of overall  balance Aussie ahead by one one think?</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-28039</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, speaking of Aussies playing football overseas, I sent you an email with a story about Rugby League in the states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, speaking of Aussies playing football overseas, I sent you an email with a story about Rugby League in the states.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/10/05/international-rules-football-is-dead/#comment-27984</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IR died years ago, when it stopped being a "compromise" and turned into Gaelic football.

The last series was a farce.  I mean, seriously people, it was Gaelic with behind posts.  Tackling was the only thing that made it even remotely Australian.    The series had over time leaned more and more to the Irish game until there was nothing Australian left in it.  Aussie players were having to not only adjust to the round ball, but were required to solo it and couldn't even pick it up off the ground.  Not exactly what you'd call compromise rules.    Take out the mark and tackle and try to tell me what is left of what is arguable the better sport ?

And the irony of it all is that Australians still beat the best of the Irish at their own game !  All of the bickering is basically because the Irish are sore losers.  They'd be champing at the bit to play if they were still winning.

Lets just cut the pretence and start entering the poorer AFL clubs in the All-Ireland finals as an off-season junket.  They'd no doubt win hands down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IR died years ago, when it stopped being a &#8220;compromise&#8221; and turned into Gaelic football.</p>
<p>The last series was a farce.  I mean, seriously people, it was Gaelic with behind posts.  Tackling was the only thing that made it even remotely Australian.    The series had over time leaned more and more to the Irish game until there was nothing Australian left in it.  Aussie players were having to not only adjust to the round ball, but were required to solo it and couldn&#8217;t even pick it up off the ground.  Not exactly what you&#8217;d call compromise rules.    Take out the mark and tackle and try to tell me what is left of what is arguable the better sport ?</p>
<p>And the irony of it all is that Australians still beat the best of the Irish at their own game !  All of the bickering is basically because the Irish are sore losers.  They&#8217;d be champing at the bit to play if they were still winning.</p>
<p>Lets just cut the pretence and start entering the poorer AFL clubs in the All-Ireland finals as an off-season junket.  They&#8217;d no doubt win hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This simple solution is to enforce the 3 man in rule and to apply a sin bin for rule breaking . The level of contact isnt really the issue for the Irish as they normally off load the ball before the tackle ,its the stuff that players wouldn't get away with in the AFL that they think is fine in IR .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This simple solution is to enforce the 3 man in rule and to apply a sin bin for rule breaking . The level of contact isnt really the issue for the Irish as they normally off load the ball before the tackle ,its the stuff that players wouldn&#8217;t get away with in the AFL that they think is fine in IR .</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than kill the series - change the rules! There are only 2 teams that play them anyway.

Why not reduce the contact level (and hopefully the potential for biffo) but change the ball to a Sherrin.

The reduced contact will favour the Irish but the ball will restore the balance and favour the Aussies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than kill the series - change the rules! There are only 2 teams that play them anyway.</p>
<p>Why not reduce the contact level (and hopefully the potential for biffo) but change the ball to a Sherrin.</p>
<p>The reduced contact will favour the Irish but the ball will restore the balance and favour the Aussies.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Dale.....</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Dale.....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure I am biased being an Aussie, but to me there was as much of the fighting was started by the Irish as the Aussies.  The Irish obviously lost.  The Aussie teams have actually gone for less muscle and more run.  I don't think it is finished.  Generally I think the Irish like it, their management not so much.  There are two things at stake here for the GAA to continue - the revenue generated from the series and the Australian recruiting of their young guns.  Without the IR series they can have no say in how Aussie Rules recruits their youngsters - it is the only bargaining chip they have.  IR will be back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure I am biased being an Aussie, but to me there was as much of the fighting was started by the Irish as the Aussies.  The Irish obviously lost.  The Aussie teams have actually gone for less muscle and more run.  I don&#8217;t think it is finished.  Generally I think the Irish like it, their management not so much.  There are two things at stake here for the GAA to continue - the revenue generated from the series and the Australian recruiting of their young guns.  Without the IR series they can have no say in how Aussie Rules recruits their youngsters - it is the only bargaining chip they have.  IR will be back!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the simple words of a Ref , Stick to the fucking rules Aussie .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the simple words of a Ref , Stick to the fucking rules Aussie .</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the simple words of an Aussie.
Harden the f*#k up Ireland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the simple words of an Aussie.<br />
Harden the f*#k up Ireland.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the skill-less Aussies and their kick and catch game got tired of losing to amateurs . The  managers sent them out to use their superior strength to beat the Irish doesn't mean a Compromise can't work . It worked fine for years .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the skill-less Aussies and their kick and catch game got tired of losing to amateurs . The  managers sent them out to use their superior strength to beat the Irish doesn&#8217;t mean a Compromise can&#8217;t work . It worked fine for years .</p>
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		<title>By: a different Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>a different Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Football codes aren't just rules/laws written down in books. Football codes are living cultures. As such, you will have culture clashes when you attempt to mix these cultures. Just because gaelic rules and aussie rules had some similarities, does not mean you can overcome these cultural differences with compromise rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Football codes aren&#8217;t just rules/laws written down in books. Football codes are living cultures. As such, you will have culture clashes when you attempt to mix these cultures. Just because gaelic rules and aussie rules had some similarities, does not mean you can overcome these cultural differences with compromise rules.</p>
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