Comments on: Know Your Football Codes: Rugby Football http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/ It's always football season somewhere. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:34:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mina http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-94694 Mina Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:59:41 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-94694 Pity that Rugby develops Men to think on their feet... I kinda enjoy it, but don't want to become a man :P Pity that Rugby develops Men to think on their feet… I kinda enjoy it, but don’t want to become a man :P

]]> By: MaT http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-94227 MaT Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:16:35 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-94227 Fang, just to clarify, it was an All Black - Wayne 'Buck' Shelford who had his scrotum ripped by dirty French tactic's. Rugby is the mans game though, American football has never taken off in New Zealand due to the game being very stop/start and taking too long. We are all drunk by the end of the first quarter. Rugby develops men to think on there feet, think for themselves. You can train tactics all week but if it doesn't work on the field its the players that have to come up with something different...the coach doesn't have very much effect after the team runs out for battle. Fang, just to clarify, it was an All Black - Wayne ‘Buck’ Shelford who had his scrotum ripped by dirty French tactic’s.

Rugby is the mans game though, American football has never taken off in New Zealand due to the game being very stop/start and taking too long. We are all drunk by the end of the first quarter.
Rugby develops men to think on there feet, think for themselves. You can train tactics all week but if it doesn’t work on the field its the players that have to come up with something different…the coach doesn’t have very much effect after the team runs out for battle.

]]> By: Fang http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-82533 Fang Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:25 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-82533 Well lemmie tell you all to begin... I am a Rugby player, have been for quite a while. Rugby Union is my game, Rugby league is closer to American football in my op because of the break in play (albeit for just a second) after a tackle. Rugby is the less pointy or explosive version of full on combat, all the lessons you can learn in war can be applied to rugby. You can do what you please, just dont raise your fists. Rugby requires you to be expremely physically fit, it is full on for 80 mins, there are no breaks for tactics, water breaks, there is only one stop for ten minutes at half time, and especially the forwards (the 8 big people in the "pack") need to be constantly running, tackling, mauling or rucking. as in combat, you can't just call a time out to regroup, you have to have a strong leader who can do it while running towards the man with the ball, about to make a tackle. Passing only backwards is a trait of Rugby, it adds an extra dimension to the tactics involved. You want to score? Can't just run a man up the line and throw to him, you gotta fight your way to the line, while every step of the way, 15 of the opposition are doing their hardest to prevent you from doing so. Rugby players refer to American Football players as girls because of their pads and helmets etc. This is completly understandable, American football has breaks in play every 20 seconds, often after a single tackle. If someone in American Football gets injured, the top clubs just roll out another Quaterback. Rugby players run and fight for 40 mins, with the only breaks they get are for when they have to form a Scrum, and use the forwards (those big 8) to push against the other teams forwards so that they can get the ball back to their team. that's their break. Rugby players have been known to continue with serious injuries for entire matches. A frenchman once had his scrotum ripped in half, yes, split from front to back, in the opening minutes, and played the rest of the match, no complaints until afterwards. This is not uncommon. I myself have played several matches on consecutive days with broken bones. Yes i knew they were broken, no I didn't whinge. No helmets, No pads Just balls. Not a complete summary, but at least you can have an insight into some of the aspects of Rugby. There are many more, like suggested above, try just watching a match of Rugby, preferably Union, but Leage is just as fun. Don't worry yourself about the rules and why things are happening, see if you can get a knowlegeable mate to sit with you. Oh and finally; Rugby is celebrated for its players being able to drink 30 pints of hard beer after a match, then the players squeeze their 17'' necks into a collered shirt, and go back to work the next day. Have a beer while watching the rugby. Enjoy Well lemmie tell you all to begin…
I am a Rugby player, have been for quite a while.

Rugby Union is my game, Rugby league is closer to American football in my op because of the break in play (albeit for just a second) after a tackle.

Rugby is the less pointy or explosive version of full on combat, all the lessons you can learn in war can be applied to rugby.
You can do what you please, just dont raise your fists.

Rugby requires you to be expremely physically fit, it is full on for 80 mins, there are no breaks for tactics, water breaks, there is only one stop for ten minutes at half time, and especially the forwards (the 8 big people in the “pack”) need to be constantly running, tackling, mauling or rucking. as in combat, you can’t just call a time out to regroup, you have to have a strong leader who can do it while running towards the man with the ball, about to make a tackle.

Passing only backwards is a trait of Rugby, it adds an extra dimension to the tactics involved. You want to score? Can’t just run a man up the line and throw to him, you gotta fight your way to the line, while every step of the way, 15 of the opposition are doing their hardest to prevent you from doing so.

Rugby players refer to American Football players as girls because of their pads and helmets etc. This is completly understandable, American football has breaks in play every 20 seconds, often after a single tackle. If someone in American Football gets injured, the top clubs just roll out another Quaterback. Rugby players run and fight for 40 mins, with the only breaks they get are for when they have to form a Scrum, and use the forwards (those big 8) to push against the other teams forwards so that they can get the ball back to their team. that’s their break. Rugby players have been known to continue with serious injuries for entire matches. A frenchman once had his scrotum ripped in half, yes, split from front to back, in the opening minutes, and played the rest of the match, no complaints until afterwards. This is not uncommon. I myself have played several matches on consecutive days with broken bones. Yes i knew they were broken, no I didn’t whinge.

No helmets,
No pads
Just balls.

Not a complete summary, but at least you can have an insight into some of the aspects of Rugby. There are many more, like suggested above, try just watching a match of Rugby, preferably Union, but Leage is just as fun. Don’t worry yourself about the rules and why things are happening, see if you can get a knowlegeable mate to sit with you.

Oh and finally; Rugby is celebrated for its players being able to drink 30 pints of hard beer after a match, then the players squeeze their 17” necks into a collered shirt, and go back to work the next day.

Have a beer while watching the rugby.
Enjoy

]]> By: Jamin http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-30627 Jamin Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:58:02 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-30627 For the differences of rugby league and American football: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_American_football_and_rugby_league And rugby league and rugby union: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union For the differences of rugby league and American football:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_American_football_and_rugby_league

And rugby league and rugby union:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_rugby_league_and_rugby_union

]]> By: rugby child http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-23823 rugby child Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:58:23 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-23823 I grew up playing American Football I love American football I learned to play rugby in my teens; I have refed, coached and played rugby for more then a few years, here in the US My evaluation and comparison of the all the 'codes' is this... All of the football games are played with abandon, and are all physical challenging and fun to PLAY As for which is most physically tough to play Here is my biased opinion Rugby League is the top spot, just watch one match; there will be no need for explanation American Football top speed collision, it would be hard to find a football game where a player is not injured Rugby Union limited substitution, but the game has had several rule changes to ensure safety, but it is still rugby and still a physically demanding game Canadian football field is too big to foster the collisions seen in American football, but it is very exciting if you like that forward pass thing Irish Football limited amount of contact; but these are a bunch of Irish guys out there Australian rules limited amount of tackling, alot of running though, similar game, but not so many Irishmen. Here are is the rest Table Foos Ball Ultimate Frisbee Donkey Kong Kick ball lastly Soccer I grew up playing American Football
I love American football
I learned to play rugby in my teens; I have refed, coached and played rugby for more then a few years, here in the US
My evaluation and comparison of the all the ‘codes’ is this…
All of the football games are played with abandon, and are all physical challenging and fun to PLAY
As for which is most physically tough to play
Here is my biased opinion

Rugby League is the top spot, just watch one match; there will be no need for explanation
American Football top speed collision, it would be hard to find a football game where a player is not injured
Rugby Union limited substitution, but the game has had several rule changes to ensure safety, but it is still rugby and still a physically demanding game
Canadian football field is too big to foster the collisions seen in American football, but it is very exciting if you like that forward pass thing
Irish Football limited amount of contact; but these are a bunch of Irish guys out there
Australian rules limited amount of tackling, alot of running though, similar game, but not so many Irishmen.
Here are is the rest
Table Foos Ball
Ultimate Frisbee
Donkey Kong
Kick ball
lastly
Soccer

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7436 Dave Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:26:33 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7436 Oh, yeah, the diving turned a lot of people off. Big time. I've been known to refer to a certain Portuguese superstar as "Greg Louganis." Oh, yeah, the diving turned a lot of people off. Big time. I’ve been known to refer to a certain Portuguese superstar as “Greg Louganis.”

]]> By: tony http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7423 tony Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:47:00 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7423 i meant fall in love not live i meant fall in love not live

]]> By: tony http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7422 tony Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:45:24 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7422 rugby fans probably think pads, helmets etc are for girls. however nowadays nearly all union players wear shoulder pads. would i be right in thinking in that north americas failure to fall in live with soccer is due to ludicrous girly rolling around in agony every time a player gets tackled? rugby fans probably think pads, helmets etc are for girls. however nowadays nearly all union players wear shoulder pads. would i be right in thinking in that north americas failure to fall in live with soccer is due to ludicrous girly rolling around in agony every time a player gets tackled?

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7421 Dave Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:34:33 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7421 Tony: That's funny, since I've heard rugby union fans refer to American football as a girl's game. Nobody can agree on these things, can they? Tony:

That’s funny, since I’ve heard rugby union fans refer to American football as a girl’s game. Nobody can agree on these things, can they?

]]> By: tony http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7419 tony Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:00:49 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-7419 rugby union + league split in england over payment, after which the 2 codes were exported separately. Essentially the game was played by the middle and upper classes in southern england and they had a very strong amateur ethos (they could afford to). In northern england, factory workers needed compensation for lost pay caused by travelling and playing on saturdays. the southern amateurs refused to play with "professionals". This atttitude persisted until union went pro in 1995.The usual english class struggle personified. Note the 2 games are not interchangeable. A lot of top class union players have successfully taken up league, but very few league players have taken to union. Union requires certain specialised skills eg lineouts,rucking & mauling which have no equivalent in league. Maybe canadian/US football would be analagous - superficially very similar but not quite the same. NB when i lived briefly in rugby league country i was told that union (my game) was a girl's game. rugby union + league split in england over payment, after which the 2 codes were exported separately. Essentially the game was played by the middle and upper classes in southern england and they had a very strong amateur ethos (they could afford to). In northern england, factory workers needed compensation for lost pay caused by travelling and playing on saturdays. the southern amateurs refused to play with “professionals”. This atttitude persisted until union went pro in 1995.The usual english class struggle personified. Note the 2 games are not interchangeable. A lot of top class union players have successfully taken up league, but very few league players have taken to union. Union requires certain specialised skills eg lineouts,rucking & mauling which have no equivalent in league. Maybe canadian/US football would be analagous - superficially very similar but not quite the same. NB when i lived briefly in rugby league country i was told that union (my game) was a girl’s game.

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6725 Dave Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:25:28 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6725 Here's another article that might help a little: http://www.associatedcontent.com/pop_print.shtml?content_type=article&content_type_id=3020 Here’s another article that might help a little:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/pop_print.shtml?content_type=article&content_type_id=3020

]]> By: Dave http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6724 Dave Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:22:02 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6724 Good question. Wikipedia has a good rundown of the differences between American and Canadian football, but nothing about American football and rugby. I'll do some Googling, but I'd recommend starting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football Good question. Wikipedia has a good rundown of the differences between American and Canadian football, but nothing about American football and rugby. I’ll do some Googling, but I’d recommend starting here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football

]]> By: B. Minich http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6723 B. Minich Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:16:43 +0000 http://www.davesfootballblog.com/post/2007/02/27/know-your-football-codes-rugby-football/#comment-6723 Wow, this is interesting. I've enjoyed it so far. Where can I go to figure out what the main differences between rubgy and American football are? This has confused me for some time - the main thing I see is that rugby players lack pads. Wow, this is interesting. I’ve enjoyed it so far.

Where can I go to figure out what the main differences between rubgy and American football are? This has confused me for some time - the main thing I see is that rugby players lack pads.

]]>